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    garryendsonPosts: 2
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      18 Dicembre 2009 alle 7:04 - Views: 595 #43715

      Hi M@x,
      Thank you for sharing this info to me. It is just one of my assumptions as T.nova resembles T.martianus in appearance more than T.princeps.
      But T.martianus has not been found in China and many old records show they are south west China. But the search of T.martianus by Spanner led to the discovery of T.princeps by chance. I guess that T.martianus may exist in somewhere in that area ,though no official data supports this idea. But who knows what to happen in the futre. Like the interesting Varieties I sent you with far fewer segments than regular T.fortunei. and also T.princeps-cultivated, with the mixed feature of snow white powder at backside like T.princeps and wider strap leaves like T.nova. It takes some time for us to figure out what they are.

      garryendsonPosts: 2
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        15 Dicembre 2009 alle 8:10 - Views: 595 #43712

        Yes, T.princeps-green (Nova) grows pretty fast as compared to T.fortunei. Some they are also very cold hardy though others say bit of less frost resistant than T.princeps.
        T.princeps may have not a creeping habit in general .What you found may happen to few individuals, but the emerging young leaves may curve a little bit.
        I think T.princeps-green (Nova) could be a cultivated species or hybrid from T.fortunei and got no idea if T.princeps plays a part. But the only similarity T.princeps-green have with T.princeps is that both have narrow leaflets forming 30 degree angle.
        Plus, T.princeps-green resembles T.martinus more than T.princeps.
        T.martianus are unidentified in China though some records say they are available . It is a mystery. It is possibel that T.martinus exist in this area .If so, T.princeps-gren could be a possible hybrid between T.martianus and T.fortunei